Sunday, June 24, 2007

Deliver Us From Evil



I want to start a post on the movie Deliver Us From Evil, a documentary about the sexual abuse of children by Catholic priests, some as young as 9 months! This movie shows what really goes on in the high levels of power inside the Catholic Church, all the disgusting arrogance, the lying, the dishonesty, the perjury, the total disregard for children by the Catholic Church in America and all over the world.

This is a real portrait of the Catholic church and its leadership. John describes the Apostate church as the whore of Revelation, and Babylon that gave the nations to drink of the wine of her fornication (Revelation 14:8). Catholics have drunk and are unable to see this false religion as it really is, one of the instruments of Satan to dishonor the name of God on earth. I pray that Catholics all over the world will see this as a wake up call to look for the truth.

5 comments:

Stephen Korsman said...
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estudante said...

Yes, I didn't want this to sound like a personal attack per se. People tend to see disagreements and argumentation as personal attacks.

As far as dialogue, I believe we need to have set rules for dialogue, just freely debating will not get us anywhere and will be a waste of time as we have both already demonstrated our commitments to our beliefs. The difference lies where our beliefs are based, either the Bible or tradition.

My initial basic exegetical rules would be:

1. Use only the Bible as basis for statements as I've requested in my challenge questions to you;

2. Provide clear passages that deal with the subject at hand, not ambiguous ones or passages that contextually are not related to the subject. Furthermore, dubious passages must be clarified with more straightforward ones.

3. Consequently, silence in a given Bible passage on a given subject does not give me authorization to create wild and irresponsible claims on doctrines that not even remotely are questioned or annulled by the Bible narrative AS A WHOLE.

4. Tradition or the history of the church in points of doctrine are irrelevant to this discussion as we are trying to determine what God and the Bible say. One can prove whatever one wants based on church history or tradition. [i.e., The Holy Inquisition, Indulgences]. This does not apply to a Historic interpretation of Prophecy and Biblical timelines.

There you go, if you agree with these or have other rules to propose, I will gladly review them.

Stuart D Gathman said...

Let me get this straight. While trying to determine whether early Christians worshipped on Sunday, documents from said early Christians are not allowed as evidence? And while the Bible provides some documentation of early Christians prior to 70 AD, it is already admitted that it doesn't address the issue!

estudante said...

Stephen to avoid misunderstandings, I edited your comment as follows:
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Stephen said:
"I notice you've changed to:

"Catholics have drunk and are unable to see this false religion as it really is, one of the instruments of Satan to dishonor the name of God on earth."

I'll respond to your questions, as I have time, but I won't limit myself to one verse as you require. If you're interested in fair dialogue, you'll acknowledge that this is fair. If not, I see little point to this.

estudante said...

Stuart, welcome to our discussion.

We are not trying to establish that early Christians kept the Sabbath using historical documents. We are looking for CLEAR and UNEQUIVOCAL Biblical evidence that they were commanded to keep Sunday as holy.

Thanks for your participation!
Blessings
André
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"But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Matt. 15:8-9